I was only talking about him for getting laid, not a relationship. And yeah that generally means those women called by that name.
If the guy is sex starved this much, and idolizes sex, he must learn what is more expensive, sex or a loving relationship.
And I don’t give a damn what certain somebody with limited exposure to modern world thinks. Everyone is entitled to express their own opinion. I don’t go around poking my nose in other people’s advices. Seeing people trying to humiliate others with a different thought process on a support group is truly depressing.
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How is your journey so far?
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I relapsed today 
I tried to occupy my mind I’m studying spanish, improving my english, doing sports, reading books… I’m doing all that every single day, however I just keep with this feeling that I need sex, I don’t wanna watch porn I want to have sex and I just watch porn cause is the closest thing that I have to sex… being a virgin is driving me crazy… but I’m not give up, as long as I still alive I’ll not give up… I’ll set me free from this addiction…
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can you find time to serve others (volunteer work)?
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Hm… I see… maybe you could try to think about advantages you would get if you quit this thing? Like - more free time, maybe new friendships, trips or journeys? Something, you have no time for now. Maybe you could try to find a part time job or smth similar (if you haven’t one)? Or maybe practice at some place? You would earn money and maybe you could make a plan to safe some money for the trip? I think you just need new experiences that would push thoughts about sex out of your head 
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I can try to find it, but I live in a small town we don’t have this kind of things around here I guess… but I’ll check out
That’s a good advice if I spend more time out of my house doing other stuff I won’t have time to think about it… it might work
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that’s good. it’ll probably distract you from you
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He’s not wrong
Materialism matters in today’s world.
I used to be the same. Believe in love and all. I gave up. Not gonna lie, I still wish to have it myself (INFJs tend to forge deep connections, and I’m one) but reality smacked hard on my face.
You’re thinking about an idealized world, while these things are not completely absent - they’re certainly hard to find. Especially due to social media things have got even more worse. Everyone lives for validation. Women get it all the time(not trying to be sexist but the reality is what it is and also I’m not dismissing that there are good women), and people in general have become extremely shallow.
What he told was basically a good point for self preservation. And he’s right. Being self sufficient and self preservation matter the most. That’s why success becomes highly important. Success doesn’t always mean a big bank balance btw, it can mean different things to different people. Being self content is also a form of success.
You can’t simply dismiss everything that he has said.
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I never said success isn’t important. I just said that trust and faithfulness and loving relationships still exist. Most people buy into that red pill bullshit after having one or two failed relationships. It’s a normal phase to go through. But as you mature you’ll understand that there’s plenty of fish in the sea and not all of them are sharks. I love sharks btw. Lovely creatures. I think you get my point. Anyway I dropped this discussion and I don’t wanna dig it up again. I don’t wanna rile up incels, you can never tell what they’ll do to themselves or others around them. Id rather not take that risk. Don’t buy into the incel propoganda bro. It won’t get you better results with ladies
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Red pill is certainly not bullshit
It is a legit concept. Narcissistic tendencies are on the rise. Validation is the only thing that matters to many.
I know what has happened with me. I might be an incel but I still got my self respect. I’m never ever selling it even if I find that there’s a chance for a loving relationship. I’m done appeasing ladies too. That doesn’t mean I hate ladies, but that certainly means I don’t owe them shit. Especially being extra nice for no reason. I had a girl whom I never talked to interrupt my conversation and tell it to me that “teri shakal se kuch lagta nhi ki tu koi acha hai”.
I’ve seen plenty of instances by my own eyes. Not just one or two. And what to speak of whom I was in love with - I was thrown away like a chewing gum. I’m not someone who drifts away easily with any girl. I keep away from people because I know it hurts me bad when I part away. It is a personality flaw, and I accept it.
That’s why I’m more firm on my stance. I’m willing to die as a kissless virgin but I’ll never ever let someone use me again. Especially for validation. If a girl makes moves on me, I’ll be extra careful. I know they are shallow. And there’s plenty who actually came to me because I unlike many others I kept mum and kept my business going on without providing them attention. But I still got stuck there.
The only unconditional love and affection that I’ve had so far is from my parents and nobody else.
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He’s right because he spoke from a self protection stance. It is extremely necessary. Because in the end you become responsible for your condition. And love means jackshit these days. Current generation is ill equipped to handle difficulties in life.
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You had me here. Anyway as I said, I don’t really wanna discuss this any further as I may rile up the incels as it’s harmful for themselves and people around them they can harm. It’s just that I don’t see the merit in teaching others that concept of trust, faithfulness and love is dead. There is no merit in it. Whatsoever. If we don’t teach the future generations love and kindness and honesty and trust, then we’ll only make things worse. That being said, I’ll no longer be involved in this topic nor will I respond further. Good night
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Why people in India worry about being incel and virgin where everyone eventually get married using arrange marriage system. I personally think this is the best marriage system in the world. I have never seen any one not getting married in my village. Even mentally retarded and drunkard guys have wife. Although I feel sorry for their wife.
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Things are changing at a rapid pace, especially in the urbanized areas.
That being said 
I had a dream that I’m getting married and I was planning to run away from home:joy:
Goddamn this discussion got me bad
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Oh. I didn’t know. But I guess it will still take lot of time to become fully westernized. For me I see my parents are more than happy to look for a girl for me. What’s best than that where you don’t have to invest time in these things. Also I guess they will do better job than me.
Nice dream man. You don’t have to run away though.
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That was a horrible dream lol
That’s why I was running away
I woke up in horror
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(Answering to RockLee’s first post here) (Someone pls tell me how to actually answer properly xd)
Dude… You almost made me cry…
Why did you expose my biography this way?
Ofc your story is a tiny little bit different than mine, but those are just slightly differences…
I wouldn’t be able to post it my self though…
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This seems like an interesting discussion.
@RockLee I assume you’re no longer worried about not having sex yet now? I think you had this thought because of the culture around you which promotes dating/sex from a very young age- which is not right. However, society does shape us a lot. Imagine the world before the 1940s The word ‘teenage’ didn’t exist. That’s why people who were ‘teenagers’ instead were army scouts mapping the land (Geroge Washington at 16), commanders of whole ships (Jack Farragut at 12 if I remember correctly, he even dealt with a mutiny) and so on. Society expected people from 12-18 to be involved in wars/planning/ helping society and only be interested in sex later, so that’s why people were like that.
One of the biggest downsides to today’s society is that they expect the teen years to be simply years of simping/sex/drugs/fun. Are you surprised anymore at how stupid teens and tween are? Don’t be, it’s simply what’s expected of them. That’s why the right community is important- this forum is a great one.
Oh yeah another thing is society expects teens to lose their virginity. If this was the 1940s you wouldn’t even be thinking about marriage, let alone be sad you are a virgin. You can man up.
@GOVIND-19 Yeah I agree 
those people have met those kind of girls and we will have met different kind of people. But they’re all hurting inside and it’s just a matter of perspective 
There are always flowers for those who want to see them.
@RockLee there are still MANY women who value morals and honor the marriage bed. So chin up!
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