The Vortex Success

I guess that means we have work to do. :wink:

But only if you’re open to it. I know hunting is not everyone’s cup of tea.

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Thanks Coffee Man. I’m not interested in hunting.

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Wise. Hunting for fun is cruel.

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3 days in and im feeling a flatline.

This is new.

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I relapsed. An hour ago.

I realized that i don’t know how to handle the flatline or THE VOID.

I may fear THE VOID

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I’m not sure what you mean by “the void”.

However, I do believe that to effectively combat this addiction, we need to keep ourselves occupied. As the old adage goes, “An idle mind is the devil’s workshop.”

I believe we need to have a system in place since we cannot endlessly rely on motivation and willpower. A good place to start developing that system would be to carve out a daily schedule. And after you’ve taken care of your primary duties and responsibilities, you could fill in the spare time with hobbies, extracurricular activities, learning new skills, etc.

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The Void is the flatline.

Completely no emotion. I felt like a robot. I had no cares for anything. Avoiding PMO causes this VOID.

Its an emotionally VOID.

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No that’s not the flatline. I mean, you do feel empty and emotionless after relapsing.
You’re either still affected by your last relapsd or you’re simply bored or lazy to carry on.
Cause the flatline comes after many many days. At the very least, after 7 days and it could go all the way to 250. Once crossed, you will be free from this addiction.
So right now, you only need to take nofap seriously bro. It’s easier said than done, even I am struggling with it. But that’s the only way.

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After a 3 day streak, i was feeling emotionless.

BEFORE RELAPSE I FELT EMPTY

W.hat caused that emotionless feeling then and how do I handle it without going to PMO?

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Life problems, boredom, and stress and any other bad thing in life can cause this feeling. You reacted by seeking temporary comfort. You reminded me of a quote I saw today in the message board:

“A man who lacks purpose, distracts himself with pleasure.”

Have you ever asked yourself, why you’re doing this? Why is it important? What are your principles and who do you want to be?
What will you do about it?

Was that your 100% potential or not even close?

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Boredom is my bigger problem at this point in my life. It also rained today so I didn’t go outside.

It is true. I do lack purpose. I have been searching for purpose my whole adult life. I have not found a purpose. I probably am distracting myself with pleasure as there is literally NOTHING TO DO HERE.

Why am I doing this? To avoid emotional pain because I am not properly trained on handling it.

Why is this important? Because when i dealve deep into my problems I come up with no solution so I choose PMO instead of failing to find a solution.

Not sure about principles.

Who do I want to be? I want to be the opposite of what I’m destined for. I want to have the freedom of not dealing with my parents daily. I don’t want them calling me every day because I didn’t call them by a certain time. I want freedom from my parents but that will never come.

What will I do about it? Nothing. There are no solutions to my life situation or my emotional problems. So I choose the only option available:

I am permanently trapped until my parents pass away. Only then will I be free. I am forced to wait until old age of myself before i can be free. By then my purpose will be to do whatever I want. Live in the moment and thank God for each day until I pass away.

I belive you made some grammar mistakes in your post. Especially this part:

There is a good website to correct your grammar problems. Here’s the link:

There is also a guide that could help you:

Hello
Long time brother

My one suggestion is
Go on a total dopamine detox
Detox from all screens
Detox from p*rn, m@$trubation
Detox from internet
All of these for few days

Reason for doing this
When i did this same thing few days back
I had a melt down on day 3 or 4 something
That i have no friends and im not succeeding and im not good enough
We all know this
But we are afraid to accept it (accept it in the sense feel the guilt and sadness)
We dont want to feel sadness and guilt and hence we continuously distract ourselves with phone, p*rn and m@$

I cried that day
It was miserable feeling
But i was motivated to get things better

How to do dopamine detox (how i did it)

When i did it
I was all prepared to face the boredom
I mean no matter what i wont touch the screen
If i feel bored so be it
There were times when i would stare at wall
There were times i would feel like my heart is getting caged and i need to free it

All i had to do was hold on.
I knew things would get better
So i was ready to put myself in this pain
(A good knife to be made needs to bear the extreme heat - “me just trying to sound poetic” :rofl:)

The problem is we need to understand
That boredom is fine
Its normal
U dont need fill all ur boredok with screen with the saying that u r using it because u r bored

So while u try doing this just try working on career
Half an hour atleast
Its fine dont think its just half an hour
I used to be like what will half an hour do
But then u need to start somewhere to grow
And since u have made a habit of doing only supramormal dopamine induced activity
U need to change ur habits

Reason for doing atleast half an hour is that
In the current state where we require high dopamine
We tend to run away from hardwork
But telling urself that the first thing ill do when i wake up in the morning is study or project for half an hour and then i dont need to do it will trick ur brain

The reason for not using phone or p*rn or m@$ ( here on ill refer to this as PPM etc) is to break the habits and enjoy the boredom

Now when u do half an hour work
If u want to do more work that day u are welcome
If u dont its fine

The whole thing about this is we are afraid to feel our emotions (we feel lonely, emptiness and guilty and sad for not having achieved anything)
But if u want to get better u have to go through these emotions

Regarding parents - i would have said many things
But i don’t knw much about ur parents
All i can do is tell u to put urself in their situation and think about it

If u agree with this lets do a challenge separately
Just the two of us

U may or may not agree with this
But try this once

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3 hour streak right now.

@Binocular I don’t believe I have reached 100%

@DARSHAN2017 My biggest believed weakness is the inability to apply myself.

How do I apply myself guys?

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You want my opinion, as long as you don’t change what’s inside of you, nothing will ever change.

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So how do I change whats inside me?

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Start by understanding who you are and what values you hold dear. Be honest and aware with yourself and identify what’s holding you back.
PMO is not always the one to blaim, just like a cigarette should not be blaimed by the smoker.
You are holding you from becoming what you can’t even think of. Imagine if all of that energy you wasted if used to improve yourself, would you be where you are now?
If I want to make peace with my enemy I need to fight him, and if I want to defeat him I must understand him. You can’t expect to win a war if you don’t understand the true nature of your enemy.
Understand your enemy, seek knowledge and wisdom. If you succeed at finding peace with yourself, nothing in this world can defeat you.

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The important question is : do you want to change ?

If yes then half job is done.

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I am officially giving up. I crave this addiction more than anything else. It is my one and only hobby. It is all that matters for me.

I am done trying. I’m at the end of my attempted journey.

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That is simply not true. It’s like saying doing Heroin and Cocaine is a hobby. It is not. It’s an addiction.

I can assure you that you’re gonna regret that decision later in life. You’re gonna look back and wish that you did anything but give up.

Instead of giving up, you should try to figure out the flaws in your approach that are impeding your progress. A little bit of mental deliberation and strategising is far better than ending up as a wanker.

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