Hey dude, it sounds really good, I think we all eventually find our way in the end 
Some days are harder than others, but Iâve been here so long now I canât Fap without a voice saying âYou donât need toâ
I can laugh, but it has a point; âI can chooseâ Bang! Scary thought. Scary because it means I do have a choice and canât hide behind anything.
I started fighting with myself and relapsed.
Iâm going to stop counting the days, and only Check-in to order my thoughts.
A key thing for me is, really wanting, to keep prodding and asking.
Two weeks free, brother, it looked like you were onto something there and starting to unravel the tangled web of lies. Donât let this hold back your progress.
Thank you bro 
that means a lot
I want to keep unravelling the lies I tell myself.
I was free for 2 weeks. One thing overtook another, what it was I was pushing towards, over, the how & the why?.
I want that spirit back.
In bs pmo-wonderland, when nothing matters, nobody gives a shit, and you just donât care; I hear that voice saying âsee, I told youâŚetceteraâ
Look! Who has the time for this shit?
Why am I wasting time in a paradigm?
Or being like a pendulum?
âA cool scented breeze wafts through my wind, and reminds me of childhood, a sunny Saturday playing outside, and the smell of cut grass, an elderly neighbour mowing his lawn, attending his quaint gardenâ
âDonât you want good memories, bro?â
NoFap,âŚis, easy. You just gotta want it.
You bullshit with yourself, anything to avoid the truth. âwhat is truth?â and just asking that question just goes to show.
5 minutes ago it was easy, and now itâs all difficult all of a sudden?
It isnât that difficult, really. You just donât know what itâs like to be pmo-free, and so it feels weird and scary.
You find it difficult for a few reasons;
becauseâŚ
You arenât actually part of NoFap, or recovery.
The label makes you feel a bit better, as you do have hope, but you just arenât âfeelingâ it today, and so you just give in.
becauseâŚ
Thatâs normal to you. Yep, Youâve normalised â â â â . Not just you, a lot of people, but donât use that as an excuse.
âduur. itâs normal, other people do it, donât dey?â Some people do a lot of other things, some people like country, some like jazz.
âeer yeah, we all like â â â â , no matter the genre, right?â
Yes itâs all the same shit.
Pmo is effectively like sex, the poor manâs orgasm. Our brains donât know any different. Weâre still pumping that same high. Even though we rationally know the difference, the feeling is still the same, more or less.
Yes, we all like â â â â . Thatâs why itâs hard to stop.
And exactly why you should stop.
Itâs only when you see it for what it is you feel disgusted, but then on other days, when you feel okay, you just habitually click âah, pleasant fap-landâ and donât check yourself and say âwtf bro?â
You find it difficult to quit because you think you are giving up something you like.
âbut you said Pmo is sex, and we all like sexâ
And this is where you donât know how to draw a line. And where you normalise pmo,⌠And the rest!
You donât differentiate between reality and fantasy⌠What is mature, normal & healthy, And what is childish, selfish & naive.
Pmo is like sex to our brain. So quiting pmo, giving it up, seems difficult.
But do we have to give it up, or is there another way of thinking about it?
âsee, I knew it, you canât give up pmo, itâs normal, and it doesnât matterâ
I donât know everything, I wouldnât expect you to either 
Yeah, most people around us are like this mindset, thinking it is normal, thatâs why we need nofap forum to support each other. Weâre the ones who know the truth.
Yes i have read so many people who successfully quit PMO feel blissful and peaceful that they all said is unimaginable before. We need to keep reading their successful experience to motivate ourselves.
Thanks for your response bro
You think NoFap is a challenge, but really itâs as simple as when you get to that point âah I feel sick, I gotta stop thisâ
That moment where you feel sick in your stomach and need fresh air;
That is NoFap
"Has someone been watching â â â â in here,
or do I just feel sick?"
âIâm just not ready, I need Godâs willâ
God has already given you free will and power over it, just as Heâs allowed you to fail.
Youâve got 3 options;
You strive to lift the weight, and maintain it.
You donât lift it, but long for it.
You donât put yourself in that position, because you value time.
Deep down, we know it all.
We know what constitutes a âtriggerâ or whatâs a lapse in âourâ world.
âOurâ world - we canât compare it to others, âoh its just booty, get over it alreadyâ
Donât compare notes, just donât.
Itâs you and you alone - us believing the same thing; Iâd probably be a lot happy without it
So donât compare with the worldâŚ
Itâs Your trigger and Lapsing that keeps you at Fap.
If you donât want to relapse, you go before, and take responsibility that You are in control⌠And You always are,⌠You just wish you werenât, because if you had choices youâd make bad ones⌠But the thing is, You are making bad choices⌠You are in control⌠God is loving and isnât forcing you one way or the other⌠But there always to welcome you home.
But you donât wanna go home only when youâre crushed⌠Then you get comfortableâŚ
Think, write, expand, lose that anxiety and panic, God is Love.
When you Love, it isnât Us and Them, Fail or Win, but âcome home, I miss you, I want you to be happyâ
But Love doesnât force itself, it doesnât hate, it has patience, it accepts, rejoices in the truth, doesnât hold onto wrongdoings but Hopes in the others without seeking for itself, purely for the care of others
Someday in March;
Just came across another member who has sparked my spirit.
It turns out that he and dear old Luffychwan (who kicked my butt) arenât the only ones with a different perspective than that of the subtle and unsaid dogma of NoFap - ie; itâs the hardest of all Addictions. Itâs a struggle. You have to work on yourself and your life.
Iâve had Gfs, been productive, made changes in life, worked, travelled, all the while being a habitual fapper.
Yes, I need to work on my life, relationships, career - but you have to regardless of being a Fapper or NoFapper.
Yes, itâs great to use NoFap as your motivation to change your life around. Iâm not saying you should listen to me, or stop doing what works well for you, but what I am saying is; if you really do want to be free from pmo now, you can be, and it doesnât have to be so difficult.
There is an effortless way that isnât dependent of your streak giving good feelings over time.
So, my buddy shared this with me,
The Freedom Model for addiction which Iâve just started. Iâm drawn to it because Iâve been here over 5 years, most of the time barely doing NoFap, or when I have; struggled to higher streaks, became obsessive, and only twice, hopefully thrice; shat it all out and felt actual freedom without the baggage of effort or doubt.
Iâve started reading the book, and it sounds revolutionary.
I completely agree that most peopleâs current understanding within the community is wrong. This doesnât have to be complicated. It doesnât need to be a battle; we donât need to become self-improvement experts to stop.
Abstinence is a passive activity; it is a not-doing-something, and we donât need anything to stop doing something except that we stop it.
