I’ve asked this question before and I want to ask it again. Where should the line be drawn before it’s counted as a relapse when it comes to porn masturbating and orgasm? I mean for me anything that I consciously do to excite myself sexually outside marriage is not okay. However I get confused to because I’ve edged time and time again while on my 60 day streak that I feel I wasn’t so honest with myself. I would be on YouTube and type “boobs” “butts” and so on. Well I would look at the pictures and get turned on yet I never watched the videos or masturbated to them and I would get the feeling to turn it off. So I did. I did not count it as a relapse as I did not masturbate or touch myself down below. Yet I feel like I should have. I understand there are multiple levels of nofap but what distinguishes one level over another? I think also if I do that in the future I will count it. I would like your thoughts on this guys.
Actually I would count that as relapsing if it was on purpose and you enjoyed it…
You see the problem is with dopamine levels… They strike higher and higher untill you reach the point when you are dosed (that probably happens after orgasm) you feel the dopamine levels rising when you seek for sexual content, right? You feel urged to look for more and more till you are satisfied…
The thing is though… Dopamine levels are related to porn itself… And to looking at sexy pictures… Not related to masturbation or having regular sex…that is why most people with porn addiction still have the addiction EVEN after they get married…
I think you should draw the line where you feel you are doing something wrong…
When you realise that porn is the same as sex trafficking.
We sometimes mindlessly going into PMO direction without intention. I think it’s almost impossible to beat. However, once you realize you’re going to that wrong direction, you should stop that and distract yourself. If you can do that, I don’t it counted as relapsed. For me, it’s the ability to fight back our natural tendency to PMO, rather than being 100% clean from everything related to PMO even a bad thought.
There are levels of no pmo and levels of relapse for sure. It’s an issue I’ve struggled with.I’m on day one and I plan on holding myself to the highest standard for this streak.So no looking (or searching for),no touching.The further away you stand from the edge the less likely you are to fall off.The “smaller” relapses have always eventually lead me to the big one.The secret to all this seems to be to set some rules and follow them strictly.