Watching porn without FAP?

Has anyone here been watching porn without fap?
Can you share your feelings?

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Bad idea. Always leads to relapse. If you edge your self then you may succeed the first night but the urges will eat away at you. Best to stay clear of everything. Don’t touch down there unless to piss or shower that’s it.

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Huh? Its even worse and theres 99% chance you will relapse. And practically its not possible.

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I tried it in my early days of Nofap… Don’t do it!.. Once you start watching it… You’re not able to control your self… You’re feeding your brain with the wrong thing… You would keep thinking about it all the time… surely you would ejaculate your spiritual energy…again I’m saying don’t do it!!.. You can read books instead… Just read “Your mind on porn”… You would understand why you should not do it.

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The idea is to stay away from this bullshit artificial stimulation. Not just avoid orgasm. It is still an addiction. Don’t do it bro.

Even seeing porn stills or semi nude photos can flood your brain with dopamine, and as long as ypu stay withput cumming, the dopamine keeps flooding. Edging for a long while or watching porn for a long while without cumming is way worse than a Pmo session where you came in 2 seconds. Less damage. Watching porn is a hundred times worwse than you just masturbating. It is the unnatural novelty and super stimulus that makes pmo this harmful.

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All the above replies are relevent, main goal of nofap is to avoid all form of p0rnographic content.
If u edge on p0rn u may be successfull for 1 day, 3 days or week but u will be faced by dopamine hangover. And at some point of ur edging u will loose control and relapse.

After u relapse think of the guilt u will face.

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Porn means high level of dopamine in your brain , you don’t need it , only when you are ready to getting this , you must searching for your real goals in life before searching about porn ، porn it’s always a track for fap (you know that porn easily helps to fap) and fap means you lost your journey so don’t think & be more powerfull to do for giving more to do for getting .
Even if you only watch porn only without fapping , did you get firstly your real needs of it ?
You have to know that *** is a moment (you have to need to but you have not to in this journey and to get it honestly it will prove to you that it’s not necessary to have this or let me say with another way you are the controller of this !!)
So , when you get your when & why , you will get what I mean .

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its probably one of the stupidest ideas in the world

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Impossible, it will lead to relapse

That’s why I don’t trust my lust again when it says “Hey, let’s look at lewd pic without relapsing!” And in the end, I will end up doing that before

So I don’t trust those words again anymore

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For the last time, What exactly is a relapse :

  1. Looking at arousing images, purposefully, with an intention of taking pleasure from them.
  2. Touching yourself consciously with the purpose of sexually pleasuring- Masturbation or edging.
    Bottom line - We had relapsed a long, long time before semen has been released. The fire in your house already is in full swing, the moment you give in and search up shit. It compounds over time destroying the entirety of the brain in a fiery inferno by the time it is over, and the faster you stop it yourself, the more you salvage from the flames. Orgasm is just nature’s way of putting out this fire.

Let me make this perfectly clear. Many of us think of orgasm and ejaculating as relapse, because it is a definitive and objective tipping or finishing point. We have a feeling that NoFap is a program where you just don’t cum. We think that orgasm is what affects our brain, and what we should avoid and try to avoid masturbation just because it leads to orgasm. WRONG.

We are here because of the dopamine surge the act of DOING and WATCHING creates in our brains. We are addicted because of that reason. This dopamine is released IMMEDIATELY when we see an erotic picture, or we start touching ourselves. I cannot stress this enough. The damage gets done the moment we search up some bullshit and LOOK at it. Sure, the dopamine shot is a bit small when all you do is see a picture, but it is still THERE. We have fallen. The brain damage is done. As we edge, the dopamine and other pleasure chemicals compound up, still fucking the brain up. The neurochemical levels are at their peak IMMEDIATELY just BEFORE cumming. Orgasm is actually nature’s way of shutting off the neurotransmitter levels and to make the organism feel satisfied, content, etc. so that it would stop trying to have sex and go on about it’s daily life after ejaculating ie after completing the purpose of sexual intercourse, that is fertilising the female for life to go on.
Guys, orgasm actually shuts off the dopamine supply created by porn and edging. This is why we feel shitty af right after cumming. You know what I’m talking about. Differentiate between the moments, the millisecond before cumming and after cumming. Just think about it. You know I’m right. The second before, logic, reason etc flies out of the window, you don’t even know who the fuck you are. The second after, the gravity of your failure, the pain of defeat, the reality of the situation comes crashing back to you.
So, bottom line: We are thinking about this wrong. Looking at porn and jerking off is what damages brain, what builds up poisonous neural pathways, and fucks the brain up. THAT is exactly what we are trying to avoid here. So “watch porn without fapping while on NoFap?” get the fuck out of here man! We are not trying to stay away from peaking, edging and looking because it LEADS to relapse, it IS the fucking relapse! It is the goddamn nuke on our brains!

The reason I’m trying to explain this in detail is obvious. Our conscious mind assosciates the moment of orgasm with failure and relapse, while we don’t pay much attention to peaking and edging. Change your perspective brothers.
As long as you don’t, our brain is like edging/peaking/stroking/fantasising/erotica = :full_moon_with_face:
The moment of ejaculating = :exploding_head::scream::exploding_head::exploding_head::exploding_head::dizzy_face::tired_face::confounded:
Start assosciating all these things with the pain and sadness you feel after cumming. Not the moment of cumming itself. Inscribe in your subconscious that this is the actual problem we’re trying to fix. Not orgasm in itself. This topic is the perfect proof that some of us has the mentality which is polar opposite to this, what I just explained. Teach your brain what to associate with what, by repeated repitition in your conscious mind. Once your subconscious has fully accepted the idea, that looking/edging/stroking and everything in between is the poison, once it has learnt to assosciate that with the pain, with the misery of failure, the moment the seed of this simple idea is planted deep inside your mind, there is nothing in your way anymore. We will have hacked into the actual fucking system which made each of us fap for so long. We will have turned the entire tide of this battle. We will have used the reward and fear circuitry itself, which had kept us in chains for so long, to break those fucking chains, forever.

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Thats a terrible idea. It will lead to relapse. Ive been there.

NoFap goal is to have a mind renewal. Watching porn you keep being a PMO addicted. So, if you do it you are driving in a wrong way highway.

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Exactly what i need. Thank you brother.

True bro. Thanks for sharing these effective ideas.

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Brother…In Simple Words

Watching Porn Without Fapping is

USING LSD AND HEROIN AT A TIME

YOU WILL DIE DUE TO DOPAMINE HIT

TO DANGEROUS

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Watch porn without fap?
What’s the idea? Get pleasure, don’t get waste semen?
Do you know who are the people that constantly relapsing? Those are the people who seeks free pleasure. I don’t have an intention to disappoint you. But the universe is constructed so, that the pleasure is never free. Do you want to feel pleasure?
I’m sure you can’t watch porn and avoid masturbation forever. I’m sure you can’t do that in long terms. There’s only one exit: accept the challenge of universe and work hard for your pleasure.
I’m writing this because I don’t want the earth to have week people. We should be strong.

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I like the comments here. Sure it is possible to do it. I achieved it and it was hell on earth brother.

I did it once just before bedtime and it was killing me al so slow. The precum made me insane and I couldn’t fall asleep. It was an attitude thing of porn didn’t really bother me. But it was a lie my head told me. So I faught back and didn’t want to fap. It was crazy just rolled around in bed and all I could think about was to do it.

I tired eventually and fell asleep after this whole craziness and the strongest urge I ever had to beat. It felt like hours and I know that only from the next morning I felt groggy and tired. Also felt so bad aswell and was wet dew to a nightfall I had thanks to all the trouble I caused.

But like @neetwarrior said it is a relapse and it is a nuke in your head a dangerous thing to play with and not very fun or easy. It will lead to a relapse mine happend a two days after it since my head was still on the porn and couldn’t shake it off that well. This is definitely not worth trying at all.

As eventually porn slowly creeps up and you fall to it again. I would rather just masterbate as a relapse than to relapse with porn only.

I hope this helps in what you are truely wanting to know as well. Just stay away from porn fight hard against it it is possible to beat it!

Good luck and stay strong and awesome!

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This is your desparate-for-dopamine brain trying to find loopholes in the recovery process.
Porn and masturbation are both equally responsible for our current state.
Do not fall for your addicted brain’s devious schemes
Be strong and fight those urges

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