Just to be clear.
Actually boy 1 is suppressing. Boy 2 is transmuting.
Itās not about suppressing addiction, itās about urges. Suppressing addiction is not a thing.
All the best! Keep it up!
Just to be clear.
Actually boy 1 is suppressing. Boy 2 is transmuting.
Itās not about suppressing addiction, itās about urges. Suppressing addiction is not a thing.
All the best! Keep it up!
There is another boy
BOY 3 : Damn, that girl is hot! Sheās real. Sheās standing right there. Sheās not a picture on a screen. Sheās an actual living, breathing person. Iām attracted to her. This is normal. This is not like the bullshit urges I feel to fap, wank my dick myself. Iām feeling attracted to a real person. My normal neural pathways are being built up. I should go talk to her, see if this leads anywhereā¦
Outcome 1 : She rejects the boy. Maybe heās not her type, maybe she already has a boyfriend, maybe he was a little awkward, and messewd it up a bit, maybe she just didnāt feel attracted to him, maybe sheās having a bad day. The boy thinks afterwards: āEh, whatever. A swing and a miss. Why did I miss again? Was it something I did, if yes, Iāll correct it, see to it next time I approach a girl. Anyway, Itās her loss man! Iām continuously improving myself! Iām a fucking alpha to have tried! I feel awesome! Fapping can suck it! This is the real deal! I love my life!ā
Outcome 2 : Sheās actually interested. This is the first time a man is approaching her because all the others are either coomers, betas, or simps who canāt even look a woman in the eyes and utter words. This guy is a fucking alpha, and heās so hot! Heās got a positive vibe around him that 80% other average guys donāt because heās on NoFap. They talk, she has a good time, they exchange numbers, go on dates, sheās happy, physically and emotionally attracted to him, he feels great too, they have a lot of fun, the relationship eventually turns sexual, they enjoy each otherās company. (If the boy is on monk mode, this doesnāt happen. She supports his decision ) Anyway, heās in a fruitful, healthy relationship, which enriches both their lives. The boy eventually thinks to himself : āJust months ago Iād been a hopeless coomer. Now I have a girlfriend who cares about me. I enjoy a real personās company instead of fucking images on a screen like I used to. Iām on path of recovery. Iām continuously improving myself! Iām a fucking alpha to have tried! l feel awesome! Fapping can suck it! This is the real deal! I love my life!ā
well you still want to think about it as a competition or an argument. but itās about overcome an addiction. an addiction that has nothing to do with any intellectual reasoning. itās about actions. if you have a weak moment, you click a porn site or start touching yourself, you are not going to tell yourself to just stop. because otherwise you could just do that and delete this app, right? you have to find a good habit to replace your bad habit. for example going outside, and so on and so on. we all made a lot of examples how to replace⦠you are more like a fish in a water who thinks he can live on land, but actually not willing to leave the water behind. so how can you be sure that you can live on land? sooner or later you realise that all your efforts has taken you nowhere and you keep on swimming in the water, i.e. your semen will BOOOOM!
Boy - 3 is all of us without nofap
I am overcoming my addiction the way i explained you whatās wrong with your fish, land philosophy
What do you mean brother? I do not understand your view
Boy 3 is on NoFap, and using that energy he is constantly trying to improve himself, he used to be a coomer now he quit PMO and has a decent streak
Boy-3 is coomer who by luck gets a girlfriend and started nofap journey or a girl ditched him and he starts nofap journey in frustration
Cāmon man @TusharPuri hy did you have to think in that way? I was just trying to be hella positive. I realise that the discussion has gone off topic. I apologise for that, but hear me out, instead of thinking negative, okay?
Why canāt it be a guy who quit PMO for the same reasons as any of us, had a decent streak, at the same time trying to improve himself, started working out, improving his social skills, became way better in every way from his coomer mentality, became an alpha from the positive effects of NoFap, but he still has urges occassionally and try to control them?
Then he one day went out to get groceries and saw this girl at the supermarket, because he was on NoFap and learnt somewhat to control his urges, he didnāt immediately sexualise her and just see her as an object like his former self used to, and whatever urge he had was to talk to her because he was attracted, he didnāt try to suppress them or transmute them, like an alpha he went up to her and flirted with her and she liked that. All my point was, healthy romantic relationships are another option in NoFap, itās one of the goals actually, to be able to be attracted by real women and have healthy, normal relations. Even if you are doing monk mode, only Porn, Masturbations, or orgasms are not allowed.
My point was that you need to supress urges only if they come to masturbate to women on screens, which is unnatural and superstimulus. If in the real world, you can also approach women. If you are getting urges like that in real life, I believe it is a better option to just go over and talk to her, instead of suppressing your urges thinking what sort of problems she might have and avoiding her. You may get rejected, get embarrassed often, but all that is part of life isnāt it? Youāll just be improving your skillset. This was my point and you completely skipped that my friend, and started thinking all sorts of negative.
Guys guys! No need to impose something on one another.
We are not here to argue.
Best way is (not only my idea) to not suppress the urge but use that urge into something productive and positive. That is the idea of Transmutation.
PS: For further information, read 11 th chapter of āThink and grow richā - Napoleon Hill.
Peaceā Out
Oooohhh yeah you are right but it is when you want a relationship and i am telling you from my perception as i donāt need one at this point in my lifeā¦
Urges are very natural because it is inbuilt
The crucial part is The Decision
Because it is your decision which is going to decide the fate of your streak.
Human is very lucky that we have power to choose.
Animals cant control their urges⦠like humans can.
That is why⦠Race of Humans is no.1 on planet Earth because of their Free-will.
Free Will is our Biggest Gift
Neet warrier stay out of thisā¦
Firstly ⦠he didnt even called you to participate in this topic.
Keep your knowledge in your pocket.
I know how tushar feels because he is telling the truth⦠atleast he is not lyingā¦
thanks @Sahas ā¦
Dear @TusharPuri,
Whether itās Boy1, Boy2, Boy 3 or Boy nā¦
I think, These are just some stages to getting away from addiction. Itās kind of mental training you are providing to have neurological connection for making memories, which can make you free from the addiction.
First of all we should have a clear mind free of preconceived notions and prejudices.
How to do that?
Why not see the people as they are? - as a human being living her/his lifeā¦just like you are! In my experience, once we start inculcating respect for a life, we stop seeing them as object. A beautiful girl, an ugly girl, a white, a black, yellow or even a transgender etc etc.- Aināt they the most beautiful creatures in the world, just like you and me?
Itās about our thinking process, our attitude towards ourselves and others. Itās about appreciating the beauty for beautyās sake, and not for Lust and is/was never meant to be so.
A Thing Of Beauty Is A Joy Foreverā¦these words of poet John Keats, indeed testify the eternal nature of beauty- itās not transient, itās foreverā¦
So in my opinion, itās not wrong to see the beauty, or admire it. Itās about our thinking process and the choice of beauty we seek- transient or eternal?
Exactly @JumpingBuddha
Thatās why I was saying that we should change our whole perspective of looking to the world. (including women) and I find that process quite easy than just suppressing my urgesā¦