GUYS, DO YOU THINK THAT WHEN A PERSON REACH A STATE OF FREEDOM FROM PMO ADDICTION THE URGES WILL STILL BE THERE OR THEY LEAVE.
Let’s say a person feels totally free and healed after 240 days in monk mode, without ever masturbating and having sexual thoughts, in this case urges will they show up again or not?
It deserves a longish answer that I have been willing to write somewhere for a long time. I will definitely answer it but not just now. Maybe in an hour or so, I will. It will be a lucid deconstruction of this messy word that has been going around and causing trouble - URGE.
Nice question, but honestly I am not qualified to answer coz never reached 200+ days. My highest is 94 days and had lot of withdrawal symptoms after day 60 then went smooth and out of curiosity fapped on 94th day.
The short answer, in my opinion, is yes. The long answer: Wether it be 3 days or 1000, I think urges will be there. What does change, however, is how we deal with those urges. It takes lots of practice and, yes, failure to learn how to deal with urges. As men we have a natural desire for women, and sex. That’s just how we were made. But how we listen to those desires is a choice. One choice is a lot harder than the other one, but that’s why we practice, and get better. No one is perfect at something right when they start, there will be mistakes. That’s ok. How we learn from those mistakes is what is important. But yes. Those urges will be there until we die. So I like to say I’m not done until I’m dead. I heard a similar quote to that a few weeks ago and altered it a bit. Hope that helps.
I am sure you will give us the best answer ever man !! I can’t wait to read what you are going to write
Would be interesting trying to understand withdrawal symptoms and delving into the question would be a very interesting topic in my opinion.
Yeah basically this question came from a personal thinking because, for example, I was a drug addict, buy when I decided to stop it, I had to struggle the firsts four months but then, my body no longer had the urge to take those substances (it was very difficult but after 4 months urges leave forever , now I’m 19+ months and I can’t even remember the flavour 
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But the point is that I’m on 33 days streak and I’m experiencing huge, huge urges, (in my personal opinion overcoming pmo addiction is more difficult than drugs), so it’s like my body is begging me to relapse, I’m struggling a lot, I’ve never been so hard urges even when I had drugs urges in the past.
My hope was that someday these urges will stop somehow, I think it’s moreover a mental issue, The key, I think, stay in finding a mental approach that allows you to “forget” that fapping and p*rn exists
Urge for having sexual contact is a basic need and has been engrained in our minds through evolution.
Now we come to pornography addiction, after spending a certain period of time on monk mode your mind will rewire and you will not feel any compulsion to watch ■■■■ or go to your old ways.
But that basic need for sexual contact, that inbuilt lust will always be there and since easiest way to satisfy it (temporarily) is pmo, one is always vulnerable to fall for it.
So we have think of some strategies to keep our lust in control and redirect it productively and keep practicing them as much as we can.
I think this will answer your question well.
Yeah I agree with this, it’s a totally vague term.
I understand your point of view, certainly an optimal situation for a 23 year-old boy would be to direct his energies to constantly improve himself and in the meantime have more options to looking for the woman of his life, after which if for every compulsive thought, procrastination, refusal from a girl, stress, loneliness, etc. (So basically for every possible situation that could put you in a position to masturbate) the best solution is to direction the energies (positive or negative) to something valuable that is not harmful to health.
What do you think about what I wrote above?
Yes that’s a good interpretation of what I wrote.
Basically we have to keep improving our mental response to situations we face.
this is the key 
Urge comes from Latin urgere which means ‘press’ or ‘drive’. It has various synonyms like, desire, need, wish, yearning and include lust, impulse and hankering.
When we say we feel an urge, we might mean that we crave to have something like an ice-cream after lunch (desire, yearning), or we have to go to loo (need, impulse) or of course, we need a partner to spend a night with (lust). All of these are coming from a drive, be it of hunger, of sweetness, of bodily sensation or other similar phenomenon.
Now, attention needs to be directed towards the fact that while the some needs arise organically, like hunger, thirst and excretory needs, some are semi-organic and some are completely artificial.
Artificial desires can be easily judged as those which depend on something that we have made into a habit and is not aligned with our bodily need. Like I have this habit of drinking a lot of Tea . It is not my bodily need and I have myself created a craving for it. Similarly ice-creams, chocolates, music, road trips, movies and extending it to all those activities that you perform to fill in your time or feel better. Simply put, had these things not been invented, there would have been no desire of it either. Skipping these doesn’t cause any adverse effects on the body, neither having it frequently cause any problems.
The semi-organic structures are the real problem. These are habits which blast open such dangerous doors in the body which are hard to close. Sexual pleasure, intoxication, sleeping pills, smoking and also our old enemy appear on the list. Their presence initially provides relief and slowly twines itself with inner structures which has already been discussed in books like Brain on ■■■■ and EasyPeasy method. These habits operate by combining the organic and the artificial.
*What we call URGE is actually a flipping coin between Needs and our own Artificial habit structure. We initially thought it to be our past time. We meant it to remain like our ice-cream craving but due to dopamine rush it soon gets more and more frequent. However, if we analyse closely it is still our own icecream craving structure. I usually drink tea when I get up. It is then that I feel its absence the most.
In semi-organic structures, the rising levels of sexual drive, search for occasions to convince the body to have the drug. It chooses occasions. So since we began the habit as our me-time filler, whenever we are alone or free, it comes rushing at us. Also, since we have linked it to our sexual system, it uses any and every occasion that it gets to convince the body to have it.*
Therefore, any sign or symbol that reminds of our sexual drive gets translated by the mind into a green signal for our semi.organic machinery to start rolling. And hence, any dream about females, a single picture, a single shot, even profile picture of your blonde classmate can push you back. It is not an urge for anything, it is simply a short circuit in your brain system, which has linked the compartment of desire to the compartment of craving and artificial habit. It keeps telling your brain that you have just woke up and must have your tea.
I know that people before me have said it more eloquently, however, since you asked for it here is my opinion. So there can never be an urge for PMO. There are sexual thoughts, that we have always had, which has got linked to our own Artificial habit structure of pastime pleasure. People who practice mindfulness attempt to lower down the intensity of organic sexual energy while those who focus on building a strict tight schedule try to break that artificial pasttime habit structure. There will always be sexual energy. There will always be free time. However we must realise that neither it is a bodily want nor it is a healthy pastime. And hence, there can never be an urge for PMO.
Yeah it seemed very clear your text, I appreciate that🙏🏻.
Concerning semi organic needs, perhaps it may be that the compound effect could come into this? As if, for example, I start to have sex once a week, than my brain will crave for two, etc…?
Let’s assume that the compound effect has something to do with it, to get out of a sexual addiction could it be used in our favor by replacing the sexual practice that aren’t healthier for the body?
I do an example: let’s imagine that I have a girlfriend, normally have sex twice a week is satisfying for both of us, then, my body wants to do it 3 times, then 4, then every day, then twice a day, in short time, the situation starts to degenerate… Would it be better to replace all those too many times who exceed twice a week of sex with a hobby, a passion or something else that allows us to shift the focus and satisfy that need for destructive a lot of sex with something positive, perhaps art, sports, business etc…? Let’s called this reverse compounding effect maybe?
So brilliantly put.
If you want to reach that. Simply.
Feel disgusted by fap that’s it and those exotic videos, pictures and anything like that just feel really disgusted about it that you want to vomit when you see it.
Also watch motivational videos about your situation. I can drink energy drinks now without a problem and have no taste in that exotic stuff. It took me about more than 3 months to find out the truth.
Nothing worked for me but this has. And I can’t wait to see myself reach 100 days easily. Because it’s been working.
Yes, I see. Same for me, I do this things too, they’re game changer for sure
It is a situation that we would wish it to be true. However, productive habits which provide long term stability, strength and happiness, compound with much more difficulty. Of course, we have not heard of people crying because they got a Gym Addiction. Productive habits develop when we get a rise in our social value. Gym goers tend to accelerate their training when they begin to get results and people begin to notice them. However to reach that point, one needs to be consistent for a long time before this situation is reached.
Therefore, positive compounding cannot be a response to negative compounding.
However, the mind control that we gain by controlling our subconscious mind against PMO can help us to build a regular Gym schedule.
Right! I think it’s a job to do daily on our mind, meditation could help a lot in this
I agree man. You’ll get out of fap your not alone.