Is porn the problem not masturbating

Hi all,
Much respect for you no fappers. I truly believe that porn is the killer and not actually the masturbation itself. I have been addicted to porn for many years and now I finally fully realise it. It completely ruined my life and my relationships to s point that I got really depressed. With depression came guilt for any relapse. But I do believe and attention is just my believe that masturbation done kindly is not harmful but when you compulsively looking for more and Spicer porn and even escorts because you need stronger emotions to jerk off, I think this is the big monster to fight against to. Please don’t take it as unrispectful for people that are doing their best for not mssturbate is just a different but similar point of view.
Far to be out of it but doing my best, this my first post proves it x

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Well, it is still a cheap escape and easy solution to a complex natural craving.
Also, we need to consider the drain of energy, motivation, and drive that happens when we masturbate.
I seriously believe against masturbation, it’s not religious or anything, but it is still harmful, disgusting, and overall an annoying ass habit, kinda like biting your nails, but a lot worse, with serious consequences to your overall mood, self esteem and general well-being.
Well, watching porn and masturbating to THAT is sooo much worse.
If masturbation (strictly without porn flashbacks, memories, supernormal stimuli etc.) should be avoided as a disgusting fruitless waste of time and energy, and a means of easy escape and instant gratification, porn should be avoided like it’s fucking LSD.
Anyhow, masturbation can still be addicting, especially if you have a prior porn habit to back it up. If you’re trying to quit porn, go on NoFap anda improve yourself and try to use occasional masturbation as a nicotine patch or something to maybe ease into the new lifestyle, that just won’t cut it buddy. If that is your intention, you’re setting up for failure.
We hear that even too much of any good, useless thing can turn real bad. There are ZERO benefits to masturbation. So, what about too much of a useless thing?

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I think its more complicated than that. Porn definitely exacerbates the addiction in my opinion. I’ve tried quitting porn with and without masturbation. When I’m porn free I tend to still MO twice a day(morning and night), whereas with porn it will be more. Keep in mind you do MO less because its not as satisfying, but it is still addictive and harmful in my opinion.
P. S. LSD is great ! Puberty made me taller, but the day I took acid was the day I became a man​:joy::joy:

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Anything, even good things, done excessively is bad.

@Stoic75 I truly agree. When I have urges, my urges are for watching porn and then I masturbate. Not conversely.

Producing sperm takes up a lot of resources for our body and strictly from an evolutionary point of view, the only goal of our life in to continue our species. So our bodies prioritise sperm production over all other things. So our bodies might divert resources from other parts of our body and devote them solely to the production of more sperm. I guess things like losing hair is a symptom of this.

I don’t feel one can truly be free of porn without quitting masturbation simultaneously

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Lol the mind is trying to trick you. Now it’ll say M is fine without porn, whereas it isn’t. Later it’ll say, “Just a peak bro not in the hardcore but a basic stuff to get you started just one peak”. Next thing you know, you’ll have 64 tabs open, still couldn’t find that one stuff that you’ve looking for hours. And it’s gonna be a usual thing after a while. So I would recommend to cut it out completely without negotiating.

This depends from person to person. If you are struggling with porn addiction then yes this is your biggest problem for example.

But to make it easier in beating it would to stop masterbation, because porn and masterbation is so linked for every person under the porn addiction.

Don’t get me wrong as masterbation is also not so good esspecially if you are crazy enough fapping 3 to 4 times a day or once everyday.

Sure yes not all guys do this and there is guys who does it seldomly like once a month or so.

The thing is there is a fine line of okay and then not so good. See being a heavy fapper it will desensitize a person towards sex as the deed isn’t pleasurable to pursuit and also may cause problems when you are actually having sex, like premature ejaculation, ED (erectile dysfunction) .
Also the need to be romantically involved is cut out as it is easier to fap then to get a girl.

This could influence not only you romantically and can influence you in your day to day as you won’t feel like achieving certain goals or get depressed since everyone “hate” or find you unattractive.

Also a big factor in this studies have shown a decrease in Testosterone levels when fapping and having sex. Not to worry it ain’t perminate, but it could overall effect on the use of testosterone in your body as some as the testosterone is converted in other forms of testosterone, but tge body can’t really use it to produce muscle or hair or up your manliness.

Hope this helps and good luck stay strong and awesome !

Thank you for your opinions guys. They are all very interesting and we are all different. As said I don’t have compulsion to masturbate but to watch porn. I just masturbate thinking about a girl I really like, should I feel ashemed? No I don’t it’s just natural to me :slight_smile: Am I going to see her like slut, no really just a gorgeous human been I would love to have a sexual connection with.

No it is not natural! Don’t sit and fap thinking of any girl! That is just bad bro. I mean, I totally get that you have a crush on this girl, and what you should do is go talk to her ask her out etc. Make a move.

In my honest opinion, I think that sitting home and fapping about a girl you like, instead of making a move is really unnatural, obnoxious and plain disgusting. Please stop that. Instead, work up the courage fo ask her out if you genuinely like her ok?

If you would love to have a sexual connection, I suggest you just have it. Don’t wish to, just have it man.