Hey guys I just had a question and would appreciate your views on it if any:
Is edging to the point of precum considered masturbating or a relapse ?
Imo edging is far worse than just masterbating and cumming quickly, especially if it’s to porn. Edging is dangerous I don’t recommend you do it if you wish to quit this addiction.
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Definitely. Any masturbation is a relapse.
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In my opinion edging and not cumming isn’t a relapse, but edging and watching P and such is still keeping you stuck in the same mindset, there is no reboot. Edging is just a super bad idea if you’re serious about quitting the addiction and changing your lifestyle.
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Thanks guys for the feedback much appreciated. 
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It doesn’t matter what it is but it’s only a matter of time before you do relapse. Imho
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Edging does not only give you painful balls known as blue balls but is also detrimental to your nofap path. It’s just as bad as fully masturbating.
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Wow didn’t know abt blue balls. Much appreciated man
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It’s really from experience. Every time I have edged on a streak I get the worse pains in my balls because you build up all that pressure but then don’t release it. Not healthy at all
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No no Im saying I didn’t know abt blue balls. U seem to hv taken it in a different manner. Peace bro
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I recently gave my thoughts in a seperate post that also revolved around edging. I hope you don’t mind me reusing the same answer:
The keyword in NoFap is self-control. This is normally achieved by abstaining from PMO; Porn, Masturbation, Orgasm. An interesting thing to note here is that Masturbation and Orgasm are seperated. This is due to the fact that they can both be a hindrance to your progress in and of themselves. Edging falls under the category of Masturbation and can be deceptively destructive to your progress. This is because you’re fooling yourself into thinking that you’re in control, because you technically aren’t achieving orgasm. However, in reality you are in fact still succumbing to the urge and need for pleasure; the pleasure found just before the point of climax. Despite how it may appear, there is no self-control in edging; it is another manifestation of addictive behaviour that will inevitably make you go ‘beyond the edge’ i.e. achieve orgasm.
When it comes thoughts and urges, I think it’s important to make a distinction. You can’t control urges. You can help yourself by being aware of your ‘triggers’ and actively avoiding them. However, one way or another, you will inevitably feel urges. You can’t control how your body reacts to them. However, you CAN control how YOU act upon them. As for thoughts, it is about context. It is impossible to completely avoid any sort of sexual thought, especially given the fact that most of us have prior experience and exposure to it in our lives. However, it is how you act upon these thoughts that determines if you’re in control or not. I’d argue that actively indulging in sexual thoughts/fantasies in your head is no different from watching porn, because they both achieve the same thing in the end.
In conclusion, don’t fool/cheat yourself or make excuses. You’ll just be holding yourself back. In situations where you are in doubt, just be honest with yourself and reflect upon whether or not you really are in control.
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That makes sense because I felt like it was opening up the same neural pathways as watching ■■■■ when I just had my eyes closed and essentially imagined ■■■■ instead. I got the same feeling as when I would watch it. So I always stopped after a few seconds when I noticed that because of it. But it’s good to have someone else corroborate that with clearer info. Thanks! @Mr_Limbo
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If you do edge dont worry , dont count as relapse, especially at the beginning, just be aware tray to avoid it and hold , just Keep going , in time purification will come by itself.
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