–Trigger Warning–
♀️ Girlfriend Problem ♂️ continues!!!
We usually go to couples’ hangout places or jungle trek/forest safari etc. & get involved in PDA there.
Today’s was an unplanned meet. We just smooched n cuddled in start. Then my hands got slippery. I dry-humped her. After few drops of precum, we were wet n totally out of control. A blow-job was not possible there so she gave me a quick handjob. I just have to go to nearby toilet to drop the load.
So my question here is that Should I reset my counter now ? I feel like it but also think Life is better when you don’t cum by own hand.
I would call it a Relapse because it sounds like you were in a deeply animalistic state and forcefully depleted your life force due to impure juvenile horniness. That has little to do with rewiring and becoming the best version of yourself.
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I think you’re right but I couldn’t resist my girl. Want to be best version of myself for her though.
PS: don’t unfollow now as its an relapse by MO, not P. Thanks @Svami-MahaGanja
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I suggest asking yourself,
Why are you on this journey?
Define what is a relapse to you.
Workout what is helping you, what is bringing you closer to what you want to achieve.
There are people with different view points, experiences, and age. One size doesn’t fit all.
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I agree with @anon67854825. We could all give you our opinions on what constitutes a relapse, but it’s you that has to live with the consequences. It’s about what you want.
You need to figure out what your reasons are for being on this journey. From what I’ve read of your posts on the forum, you want to be able to have healthy sexual relationships again. Figure out whether this is something you could do by abstaining from pornography alone, or you would need to go the full ‘hard mode’ route. Some people have recovered from erectile dysfunction without going on hard mode, but it’s recommended as people tend to see faster results.
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Your situation is like this :
There is a Road … You take 7 steps ahead … you about turn and walk back 7 steps and start walking in opposite direction… Then you again about turn and repeat it.
This way … You are stuck in the middle of the road… You are not reaching anywhere.
Either you should go Full Hard Mode. OR
you should enjoy your Organs.
There is no middle way.
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Thank you all for words of wisdom. ■■■■ is never a very big problem for me. I want to go on full hard mode but failed when with her. My mind guilt tripping to count it as relapse, so let’s start again 
@anon67854825 @forerunner @sahas @svami-mahaganja
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And Plz dont explain your Acts in such details.
As i was reading your topic… it created a scene in my mind… where you both were doing the stuff. I got a slight boner.
Keep this in mind… dont post such stories in details in future. It is NSFW.
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I agree the forum should stay clean, but man you will be confronted forever with sensuality. You have to face it and get stronger and not running away, hiding…Tame yourself, dominate yourself but don’t weaken yourself by neglecting and opressing nature.
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@Svami-MahaGanja is wise.
All my years of being religious has made it obvious to me oppressing is like trying to push a basketball underwater ~ if you loose strength it will pop right up and smack you in the face 
And yes, he’s so right, unless we make [friends] with sensuality it will always confront us, or us it.
[edit; accept & respect]
I had gfs that made me pmo and fantasise more, than when I was single.
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bro nature recommends " sexual intercourse " … whatever sex positions , methods or stuff made by humans instead of sexual intercoure is relapse … doing handjob by your own hand or your gf hand or your wife hand or anyone doesn’t matter … you did MO and relapsed … but the best thing is you didn’t watched porn … cause it damages us more than MO.
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You’ were not dreamin when u ejaculated, u’ re consciouly present when it occured ,dont be delusional .
So Its a relapse , doenst matter if its your hand or someone else.
Youre here to save ur life force, u know the consequences of wasting it . So take it seriously bro.
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Ohh very sorry for that bro. I will keep it clean. And won’t happen again.
Flagged it ?
@Svami-MahaGanja @anon67854825 I am not running from it. I’m here to take it head-on. Your wise words are boosting my morale!
@drago08 @udi Yes my mind also deemed it as relapse. Its just playing tricks on me to give in it again, but I won’t.
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No i didnt Flagged it.
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Bhai ki imagination next level par ja pahunchi h 
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I had posted a similar question… I had gotten a handjob from a girl and was wondering if it was a relapse. And it really does depend on what you are doing this for. Yes I Kno sum ppl will say it’s not natural sex but if FOR YOURSELF you are tryin to quit masturbating so u can be better for your girl … then…but for me personally my main goal is quitting porn and excessive masturbating cuz of porn induced ED. For ME personally the orgasm part isn’t the problem… it’s wats best for your goals
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For me ■■■■ is never been a big problem. But yeah ■■■■-induced ED is what got me into NoFap. I have to stop MO by myself. & Now going for Hard mode.
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