Nathanbetter's [M27] diary

Recall that I said nearly everything said by EasyPeasy is correct. But not everything is correct, in my opinion. It does a little discredit to will power and yeah I agree with that.

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Well it does say some people make it out with just willpower, more over it just says success rate with easy peasy is better than pure willpower.

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The full advice is you don’t have to quit while reading unless you are on a ■■■■ diet or have already been abstaining for a few days and as we all are no fappers, we are always in abstinence phase so we don’t have to follow that, that advice is for people who take ■■■■ and masturbation as a normal habit

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@prothekter_aden Thanks brother! I told my wife 3 weeks ago and it was horrible initially. I really appreciate your thoughtful and carefully worded responses! I even told her about every app that I am using to overcome this.

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@debellator Indeed, you did give me that caveoutte :slightly_smiling_face:I really appreciate you being being the one that encouraged me to read it.

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@The_integrous_one oh gotcha! I was probably too biased to hear the full advice, so in the process of paraphrasing I didn’t quote the book properly. Thanks for the thoughtful response brother :slightly_smiling_face:

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Thanks for everyone’s responses (@The_integrous_one, @prothekter_aden, @debellator)! I definitely will still read the full book, but I might not do the Easypeasy method to perfect fidelity. Instead, I will attempt to dynamically use the best of several philosophies in an attempt to further personalize my approach. Admittedly, this might be the wrong approach. I will closely monitor my progress and will document any urges or triggers. I need to stop saying thank you so much… I just really appreciate peer support :grin::grin::grin:

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I don’t think there’s anything wrong with this approach, I also do that, now a days I just use easy peasy to counter societal brainwashing, like literally I feel that our society and today’s shows and even music are baised towards sexual behaviors and over long term it weakens my mind, what I believe is we need a dose of opposite motivation too, for that I just listen to easy peasy audiobook everyday then be it 5 minutes per day but it does the job.

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@The_integrous_one Being so new to this forum, I don’t always know what methods people are using, so I’m glad that I’m not alone in this more dynamic approach. In my profession, we deem this style of approach the eclectic approach :slightly_smiling_face:

I agree that so many cultures have built in perversion. I personally don’t use a blocker; however, I definitely try to reduce my exposure to potential triggers. If you don’t mind me asking, do you use a blocker?

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No I don’t :sweat_smile:, but I do use a digital detoxing app so I don’t get distracted because of my mobile while studying

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Day 39

-39 days without porn and no relapses since I’ve started this app.
-I never made a rule to not masterbate, but interestingly enough, I have not endulged in this behavior for all 39 of these days. The whole point of this app for me was to have a peer support group to encourage and motivate me to be disciplined in not looking at porn.
-I feel discouraged to use this app since I feel disingenuous to those on here. I feel this way because literally the whole point of this app is to “say no to fap.” I’m a married man who has sex with my wife very frequently and most people on here are not married and do not have sex. As a married man, I am not opposed to masterbation as long as I am thinking of only my wife.
-Ironically, a nofap app may have been one of the key apps in saving my marriage, despite being personally not opposed to fap in the confines of marriage.
-Ugh… so many mixed feelings. I really should leave this incredibly helpful app since I am clearly not the right audience. Surely there is a supportive app like this one for married men. I feel bad for never disclosing this to anybody who cares sooner. These conflicting feelings make it difficult for me to engage with other posts because I am so different than the intended audience.
-For those that have made it this far into my post, I have signed up for counseling. I believe that this is a big step for me.
-Sorry, sorry, sorry… not sure if I will be back. Sorry, not trying to sound melodramatic :sweat_smile:

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Why be sorry for self improvement bro?
I mean, you’re just battling this in your way and it’s really good.
Go on man…
Cause once a wise man said:
It’s your life, make it large.

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@prothekter_aden thanks man! I appreciate you :slightly_smiling_face:

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Good to hear brother. Don’t feel any shy or any guilty feel to iincrease your prescence in this forum. We all are helping each other. We know our problems. We are finding new ways to fade it. So go on your streak. I really hope you can completely fade it away and can spend time with your wife with love and care for the entire life. Thank you🎈

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@The_Brave_Pilot thanks brother! I’ll do my best to proceed with fortitude :muscle: :muscle: :muscle:

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“say no to fap” and “nofap” are misnomers. In fact, I would prefer that they change their name to “pornfree”, which is what the actual goal is. nofap is just a name, the actual focus is being ■■■■ free. And it will help if you increase your presence, don’t feel guilty. Many guys here are young, sure, but I know there are a couple married people as well.

Two are better than one,
because they have a good return for their labor:
If either of them falls down,
one can help the other up.
But pity anyone who falls
and has no one to help them up.
Also, if two lie down together, they will keep warm.
But how can one keep warm alone?
Though one may be overpowered,
two can defend themselves.
A cord of three strands is not quickly broken.

Ecclesiastes 4:9-12

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@debellator love this man! This concept is also found in the New Testament :slightly_smiling_face:

Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. For every man shall bear his own burden.
Galatians 6:1‭-‬5 KJV

What this passage suggests:
We need to carry our own load because nobody else can carry it. We are responsible for our own soul. At the same time, we need to encourage, motivate, and at times rebuke one another so that we can all make it to heaven in the end.

@debellator thanks for bearing my burden brother :pray: God bless :grin:

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Day 42
-I’ve decided that if, or should I say when, I can make it to 100 days, I’ll preach publically at my church about my addiction recovery. What do you guys think? Is this too soon?
-I’m excited about receiving counseling soon to cope with stress and recover from my porn addiction.
-My wife agreed that she will have kids with me if she can improve her thyroid health, as recommended by a specialist. This is big news; I can’t wait!

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I had similar thoughts. That I would say everyone that I recovered and it was hard and I’m normal again.
Now as I achieved it, I don’t care. Just enjoying my freedom. Nobody cares about past. People only see you as the person you are at this moment, they don’t care about how you achieved it. They see normal guy and they think it’s normal guy. Nothing to boast about.

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@Hubinho I would have to politely disagree. To talk about overcoming an addiction helps normalize this behavior. It can also help others understand how they might overcome their addiction or issues. If this is your philosphy, then why come on the app at all if you are not going to talk about your past. It is not to boast, but rather to expose when I was weak. There is nothing worse than a hypocrite preacher, so in a sense, to preach on this topic would also be a confession of my past sins.

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