Masturbation is the only thing which keeps Rape rates down

read carefully, i am against pornography. i have put point for masturbation.

this needs basic social mental health cleaning and hard mode laws against rapes. are we seeing anywhere hardmode purification in this regards ? what all are expecting ? just imagine all bad ppl stopping fap and then tending to shear crime ! only thing which has still saved all to major extent is fap. ya porn is evil and should be killed.

good that you got the point buddy, but to those ppl who need recovery there are no social means and laid ways, ya porn should be stopped immediately.

buddy, u r talking about higher level conscious ppl. i m asking for dead dirty level in our society. just go around in slums and try to correlate.

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Point complete misunderstood. Porn , human trafficking should be stopped and killed immediately. i am talking of human body function and state of unclean minds.

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Bro you’re fapper that’s why you’re saying this, do 50 days, do 100 days, your prospective would change. You’ll say why people are even doing sex, are they mad, there is so much bliss in semen retention. When you throw it out it gives you so much pleasure, retain it for a while it will give you 1000 times more pleasure. You’ll be godlike bro, your awareness and vibration is so low, do semen retention bro i gurantee you there is so much pleasure in keeping this thing inside, you’ll never regret it bro. People will respect you, your parents would be proud of you, children will adore you, animals will like you. You’ll rock bro, don’t fap dude don’t fap,

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correct. to take all society all layers to this stage is what is required. we who are reading n replying are at comparatively better level of consciousness so we hope to recover and first place we knkw what is wrong. a big portion of naked reality running on roads doesn’t even has this sence

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Brother actually those slum people don’t have any other way except masturbation…
If they had money they would love to involve in prostitution. If they get a chance they would rape others definitely. But it is good that females avoid going such areas.
Slum areas are also raising rape cases…

Brother you can call such people uncivilized…
They are helpless so they are masturbating. If they get chance they will definitely ruin others life…

Hope you agree

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I’m on day 85 dude, life is amazing. I can’t tell you how much happy i am right now. No money,sex,girl or whatsoever this whole universe have can’t give this happiness. I’m completely in myself fully aware right now, the present moment. I’m fully aware of my sorrounding yet completely in myself. I promise you you’ll be happy af bro, you’ll not even think negative, your life would be so positive, you’ll one see good things. Nothing is outside, world is inside me. What is inside me, i see outside. If inside is problems and unresolve conflicts in my mind, I’ll only see problems and negativity outside in the world. See the point dude, don’t fap please, make your life better, you deserve so much happiness.

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Exactly
Masturbation is not a solution.
That’s why people who do once a day they start doing it twice then thrice and so on…

Their lust keeps on increasing and they are more prone to become rapist​:frowning::frowning:.

Kepp going :pray::pray:

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Well you summed it up what I’ve been trying to say. However not to be offensive to the people of slum but appropriately directed towards the ill minded people who are sick figuratively regardless of what class they belong to. To these people when you Add porn they turn into a monster. Consciously of they even have a chance they wouldn’t just Masturbate to calm them down but when got opportunity will commit the crime. As I already said

Fools say masturbation is natural because they haven’t discovered something above then this, kids say sex is fun because they haven’t tasted something above then this, legend say semen retention is the truth/ultimate level of happiness because they have tasted that thing. Taste it a bit bro, fapping is not natural, no animal on this planet masturbate. No animals wear condoms or whatsoever, mostly do sex to bring a baby, this is natural. Semen and sex is for birth giving, this is natural. You talking about science bro, science don’t search, science do “research” science find which is already there. Wait some years/decade/centuries science will itself declare what is natural or not.

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I can say it’s the sexualized media and the increasing amount of pornography that is being accessible within clicks. Why does a human needs to be sexually aroused 24/7, I mean literally you can’t even watch a music video without any triggering content.

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RAPE IS AN ACT OF REVENGE AGAINST THE OTHER GENDER OR SAME GENDER.

See… its about CONSENT… rape is a crime… it breeds out of cultural misogyny or ideological patriarchal mindset. Rape satisfies the false male ego of superiority and domination mindset.

On the other hand, masturbation is a self pleasure activity. It is just an individual’s indulgence with oneself.

Abusive porn is a media which must be banned because people of impressionable minds especially children can become psychologically affected by it and may try to replicate it.

Now, finally if you do not masturbate, then it DOES NOT lead to rape tendencies. Rather it fills you with positive energies.

Rape is a consequence of bad parenting, poor cultural morals, criminal mindset, revenge feeling, extreme anger and poor emotional intelligence.

On the other hand, extreme PMO is an addiction like drugs and it weakens the body, mind and soul. It is a problem of the mental balance.

So PMO has very weak connection to Rape.

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Rape is crime yes we all agree on this point.

But comparing being a nofapper to be a rapists is what the issue is here.

It kinda does make sense in a way to control the urge to masterbate rather than to rape someone sure the argument has some merrit here.

But being a nofapper also you go through the same process. That is to learn CONTROL.

It isn’t about religious views or who is right or wrong, but risks in society for being a risk of a rapists is higher when you don’t learn to control these urges being and under the influence of porn which gives these urges to a higher level.

Yes, guys on nofap could be a risk too, but this is due to not giving attention on how to deal an urge. Due to actually breaking free from porn, but the world is very sexualise.

So a guy is 50% responsible in some cases of rape ( not justifying it) , but there is a lot of hookers and always have been. Also girls drive most of us crazy by wearing less and less by the day. Lowest neck line (actually boobline) or mini skirts which is kinda almost just a shirt with some frills.

BUT THE THING IS CONTROL IS KEY HERE.

If you don’t learn how to control you sexually then obviously rapes will happen plain and simple as that being a nofapper or not. Without that control obviously you are capable of bad things as there is no limit.

The thing is I get why everyone gets upset about this and bring religion it. Is because materbation gets justified here and to say to masterbate is okay and to say masterbate to avoid being a rapists. ( This is not correct) It is not due to religious points of view and also being offended of trying so hard to be a nofapper and then be compared to a rapists.

It is because it is an excuse to masterbate to learn CONTROL sexually and it seems impossible to do so without masterbation. Which is the issue here as a person can learn to do so. It all depends on what you build your life out and that will be equal to what you do.

If you fill your life with sex well then sex is what you will be doing(porn, raping etc.). If you fill it with religion ( pray, meditation and read of religious books) etc. Everything in life needs control and You decide what to do.

So this is what I think about it. Hope no fights incue further. Good luck and stay strong and awesome!

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Indeed man must learn to control his urgs and find excuses for his crimes.

I just don’t know what your talking bro. But my thoughts, that PMO and masturbation is a theory while the rape is an action. The masturbating is a book and the rape is an objective. You know, when we wanna learn or do something, we search how. We buy lot books, seeing YouTube video, or anything to achieve that. And masturbation is just one of the sources for that.

You can’t achieve no zero or pinning down the number by just looking at one factor. You just can’t, idk cause there are a lot of factor out there making that happens, and masturbation and porn addiction make those persentage for doing that go higher. All those rape things is an accumulated activity from all things we done, like maybe you watch lot porn, or you just imagine stuffs, your family not in good situation, then making decisions like rape and stuff to relieve yourself. Even you escape and use masturbation to avoid rape, yes I think it would works but there are many factor beside that, that the rape idea still there even we don’t do masturbation.

So I think it’s pointless to do masturbating to stop rape down. Cause, even without masturbating, other society condition will be still there and make such rape happens. And I don’t wanna do masturbating, it’s making me sad. And I don’t wanna sacrifice my happiness to others. So why? What we or you can do is stop masturbating, and focus to other factor out there that causing rape. And idk why we debating this, can we just focus to improve oneself, be better version from yesterday , then we can focus others. Heck if our innerself itself bad, how we are going to change others.

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yes agreed on this point

The thing is to masterbate to avoid you to commit a rape act. So you control your urges in a way that doesn’t harm anyone else where to you forve them into sex. This is what he ment.

Masterbation doesn’t learn you to rape someone as you can’t compare the experience. Rape = to force someone into having sex. Masterbation is technically sex with oneself. No one else is required. It is an apple and an Orange and you can’t compare the two.

Porn is only a act of sex we can view through our device. Sure one can definitely learn to rape someone here as some of these footage make it there.

BUT it still is up to control. Say for instance you have a urge at this moment, what do you do?

Well you have 4 options.

  1. Watch porn

  2. Watch porn and fap.

  3. Just fapping

  4. Fight the urge not to relapse as you are on nofap.

Well if you wanna get technical if a girl in a bikini is infront of you all these options are infront of you execept plus some extra options.

  1. To have sex with her

  2. To rape her.

  3. To walk away and watch porn

  4. To walk away and fap to porn

  5. To walk away and fap over her that aroused you. (Or just to fap not do anything with her at all)

  6. To go against all odds and stay , sex, rape and on Nofap.

This is where the Control comes in and it is based on what you decide. If you choose to have sex with her or rape her. This no control with it when you rape her, little control over it when you have sex with her and to walk away and watch porn and fap and like meduim if you just masterbate in and major control over it when you stay free of it.

Easy to see his argument over it. If you think logically and rational about it.

Every thing is not just black and white like you definitely choose one side there is a gray area. Even in religion and every part of life as not everything is simple to explain.

See in every faith the is good and bad. You sin and repent and all that type of stuff I don’t wanna get too technical about it. But it depends on what your life and what you choose your life to be.

And also based on that views be it relious you’ll base your life on making religious decisions for example as it will be your moral compass.

What you value is what makes you well you easy.

@Taher kindly close this topic