Is porn the problem or masterbating?

Hey guys, just on day four right now and curious if masterbating in the shower down the line is ok without porn or if in general we should try not to masterbate at all.

It’s also covid so sadly won’t be able to get laid for some time. Thanks

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I’m going to tell you what I told another guy, Every man visualizes pornographic images in his head while he’s masterbating, because he need something to masterbate to. So in reality, you haven’t taken the porn out of the equation because your mind is dwelling on it while masterbating. Plus, you’re wasting your semen.

Masterbating will cause you to become depressed, anxious, fearful, weak, emotional and stressed. Plus Brain fog. The goal of Nofap is to improve your quality of life by avoiding Masterbation and Pornography. Also, its bring clearity to your vision of further goals not only regarding marriage but other aspects of life.

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Gotcha. So if it turns out that it’s 4 months until I have sex, is it recommended to never ejaculate once until then?

If so, there’s two thoughts: a) is there a healthy element about ejaculating? I feel I’ve read it has its benefits b) when I do have sex I’d probably last 15 seconds if I had not ejaculated in 120 days.

Would love to hear yourself and the communities thoughts on this. Thanks :pray:

Honestly, it is recommended that you never ejaculate during the 4 month period.

There is no healthy benefits, when it comes to masterbating. When you masterbate, your brain is getting a dopamine overdose, which is damaging your dopamine receptors. Plus you’re wasting your semen and losing testosterone. Masterbation will kill intimacy and trust. If you have sex, after you’re 120 days clean, you should last much longer than 15 seconds. More like 30-45 minutes, because you’re young, I’m assuming. That’s my take on it.

If you Masterbate, you won’t be making any progress. You might as well leave this forum, if that’s what you want to do.

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Well these are important questions that need to be asked. I don’t think there’s a need to suggest someone to leave the forum if they wonder whether or not there could be a balance.

On every topic a smart person considers both arguments to make a decision. There are some that say it can be done in a healthy way: Am I masturbating too much and can it be bad for me? - NHS I’m here to learn more and make the right decision. It seems to me like other topics (ie marijuana), some can say it’s ok but yet many overdue it and it has damaging consequences.

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Brother At last it all depends upon your perspective.
As you said that maybe someone who has joined want a balance. Ok! Thats his choice. But mainly in this forum you will find people who are fed up of this habit and want to remove this complety. As you said you have read it’s benefits and you are now getting to know its downsides also. So at last, it all depends upon you. This community is here to help us each other on this habit. And as you said many say that it is somewhat healthy until it’s in control. Maybe that is ok! But who has this in control?? Who’s habit is not grown into addiction? To find the answer, what we can do is stop doing that and see if really that’s in our control or we are in the habit’s control! Try it yourself. We found that it’s not in control so we are getting control over it by different ways , meditation, workouts, socialising etc and etc. But as i said at last it depends upon you and your Perspective. And in downsides it not only corrodes your mental health but your moral values also! That feeling of disgust, that shame , that escape from our problems , we want to end! That dopamine high of 15 sec and then shame and feeling low for so long and that constant regret of doing that. And regret will only be there if there are morals and moral values , a direction, a way, a goal of life. So yeah ! There is much more , if you want to know just ask :slightly_smiling_face:
Have a nice day!

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Heres the thing, Both are bad. I’l tell you why

Science says masturbation in moderation is good… Even healthy. Lesser instances of prostate cancer and stuff. But i bet atleast 80% people out there use porn (which is unrealistic ofcourse) to stimulate their senses and orgasm. I used one of those guys. Porn isn’t right and just do a simple google search you will know why.

Why you should not masturbate???

*Masturbation in moderation is a myth (it will become an addiction i bet you)

  • every person on this planet who masturbates is guilty of low confidence, self esteem, difficulty in sex drive etc
  • it needs immense willpower to quit this habit. So if u quit it you are a winner at life. I guarantee you
  • Quit for 10 days. See the results
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@Human108 @The_wild_perception thanks for your guy’s response. I think it’s true that it’s almost impossible to do it without overdoing it. Over the past few years I’ve also came to that conclusion not only about porn but about other things in life.

For example, people say “balance” in work, with drugs, diet, etc is the key, but I don’t think 99% can get just the right amount. I think it’ll give go 60%+ towards their weaker will power. Smoke weed only on weekends. This could be a personal reflection but idk. This tends to create a habit that reflects in all areas of life. It’s application to other areas of life is something I’m working on figuring out though.

I’m on day 4 so I’m exited to see how it goes!

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