Complete guide to quit 𝗉𝗈𝗋𝗇 for good and improve your life

This is not written by me, but I HAD TO share it with all of you, because this is not some temporary trickto achieve 30, 60, 90 days target. It is a step by step guide for the complete reboot, to completely change your approach towards quitting ■■■■ and tackle PMO in the right manner.

I’ve shared it in a few other subs, because I want to reach as many people as possible.

It is extremely long, but trust me, it will change your whole perspective of quitting this addiction. Just read.

Written by - TheUnderdog

■■■■ Addiction is Being Severely Underestimated

How do I know this?

Because most people in the community believe that in order to get rid of this addiction, all they have to do is keep trying over and over again, until eventually things will just ‘click’ and their brains will finally become rebooted.

Very few are treating this as a true addiction. They just see it as a habit they want to break.

This is evidenced by the stubborness of many, relying purely on willpower for months, only to constantly reset their counters and beat themselves up for not making any progress.

Most people don’t realize how incredibly difficult it is to completely remove artificial stimulation (of any kind) for the rest of their lives. We’re talking about years and years of brain conditioning here.

We’re dealing with some powerful stuff here, but it is not treated seriously enough, probably because it’s widely accepted by society and is not a substance like heroine or cocaine.

I cringe when people relapse, reset their counters, and proclaim “This is it, I’ve had enough, I’m going to do it this time”…

Stop kidding yourself.

This is an addiction that has to be attacked from many different angles. You need a full arsenal of tools and strategies, as well as a proper mindset.

Willpower alone won’t do shit.

Abstinence is NOT Recovery

What people usually try to do is go as many days clean as they can.

That’s all they do.

That’s all their goal.

They achieve a certain amount of days, then for whatever reason they relapse, so they start over and repeat.

That is abstaining. That is not recovering.

It is extremely common for people to achieve a certain milestone, such as 30, 90, or 100 days, relapse a few days later, and then find themselves unable to get momentum again. They go back to the beginning and they feel like they lost all their progress from their run.

There is a constant frustration for lack of progress. People are feeling overwhelmed and discouraged, trying the same thing over and over again without success.

This is because very few are addressing the real roots of their problems. Very few.

Everyone is focused on how many days they have managed and if their symptoms are either present or gone. They judge their progress by measuring dick hardness, spontaneous erections and morning woods.

They are “trying to quit ■■■■” so that they can “get rid of their ED”.

So they abstain for as long as they can, hoping that this can cure their symptoms.

Completely wrong approach.

If they don’t see ED improvements, they get discouraged.

If they see ED improvements, then maybe a ■■■■ session or two won’t hurt, right?

If there is no woman around, they justify watching a couple of times. After all, they are not having sex anytime soon, so whats the point?

They delay dating until their ED is cured or they have managed to go 100 days. But they never achieve this in the first place precisely because of this incorrect mentality.

The same applies to other symptoms such as social anxiety, energy levels, motivation, etc.

They try to quit ■■■■, so that the symptoms can go away, and so they can finally live life.

People are focusing on the wrong things.

They are not changing the way they think.

They are not changing the way they live.

They are not changing the way they view sex and women.

They are just trying not to masturbate, while everything else remains the same.

That, my friends, is abstinence, not recovery.

The Foundation of a Proper Reboot

■■■■ addiction is not the cause of your shitty life.

Read that again.

Of course, it’s difficult to improve your life when you’re having intense ■■■■ sessions every single day that drain your energy and make you a zombie. But ■■■■ is not the reason your life sucks.

Please, this is very important to understand, you have to stop blaming ■■■■ for your problems.

This mentality of life awaits me after recoveryis destructive.

■■■■ is not the reason you’re a procrastinator. ■■■■ is not the reason you’re depressed. ■■■■ is not the reason you’re lonely. ■■■■ is not the reason you haven’t been able to lose weight or gain muscle.

■■■■ is the symptom.

You watch ■■■■ to escape reality. You watch ■■■■ to manage your emotions. You watch ■■■■ because you’re bored, lonely, stressed, depressed, angry, isolated. You watch ■■■■ to feel good for a moment, to replace uncomfortable emotions and situations in your life.

Here’s how you get rid of this addiction:

You don’t focus on quitting ■■■■ so you can finally get to live life after you’re recovered.

You focus on learning how to live, how to manage your emotions, how to change the way you think and view the world.

You put all your energy into building the life you want.

This will naturally lead your mind away from ■■■■.

Success is not measured by how many clean days you’ve managed.

It’s measured by how much your life has improved since you started rebooting.

This is what you need to do.

Step #1: Write a life vision for yourself

How do you envision your life a few weeks, months, or years from now?

Spend a whole day (or week) thinking about this.

Don’t say I don’t know what to do with my life.

Are you telling me you have no clue what you want in any of the following areas: study, work, family, friends, hobbies, health, etc.?

Even if you’re not sure, you need to give your life some direction.

This is by far the most important part of recovering from pornography addiction.

Write like crazy. Write many pages if you want. Make the biggest post you’ve ever done in your journal talking about how you envision your future life.

This life vision will be the foundation of your reboot.

This is what you will focus on 100% from now on.

Close your eyes. Visualize it. Write it down.

If you don’t know what you want in life, then this is actually a more serious issue than ■■■■ addiction itself.

Like I said, spend a whole week if you need to.

Brainstorm.

Ask for advice.

Take a notebook and go to a park.

Inspire yourself.

This is the beginning of your recovery.

Take it seriously.

Step #2: Give urgency to your life vision

Ok, now you know what you want in life. Even if you’re still unsure in some areas, such as not knowing what to study, that’s ok. At least you can give your life some direction for the moment. This is very important. You need to give your life direction. You need to move towards something.

Here’s the problem. Many of us know what we want, but we keep delaying it. We’re experts at delaying goals. We wait until New Years, or the beginning of a month, or until circumstances get better.

So this is what you’re going to do now:

You’re going to give urgency to your life vision.

Write down why you ABSOLUTELY MUST start working on it right now.

Make another huge post or journal entry about it.

Let’s suppose you’re 27 and you have no job, no car, still live with your parents, and spend most of the day playing video games. Why in the world would you wait more time before starting to do something about it? This is urgent bro. You’re fucking 27!

Or maybe you’ve never had a girlfriend in your life before. Well, what are you waiting for? Go buy some nice clothes, start going out more frequently, make mistakes, get rejected, ask women on dates. Start getting some experience NOW.

You have back pain? Start working on it. Don’t wait. The more you wait the worse it gets. Start doing yoga or swimming. Move your hips and back constantly every day.

Write down reasons why you must start pursuing your life vision right now.

You have to stop living like this.

This is urgent.

This is high priority.

We must convince ourselves that change is imminent.

It’s very important.

A life vision is no good if you have no urgency.

You’ll just keep delaying it. Waiting for circumstances to improve. Waiting for motivation to arrive. Waiting for the beginning of new year.

Create urgency.

Step #3: Develop an indestructible belief in yourself

One of the main reasons we quit goals is because deep inside we don’t believe we’re actually able to do it.

When successful people like Arnold Schwarzenegger decide they want to achieve something, they become completely obsessed about it. They have an indestructible belief that they will achieve it.

They are not affected by circumstances. They create results in their head before they even get them.

This is what you have to do if you want to accomplish anything.

For example, let’s say you want to learn how to play guitar. And you have the urgency to do it, because you know it takes time, so the sooner you start the better. You have to start now.

However, after a few days of learning the basics, you start losing motivation and becoming discouraged. You realize that playing guitar is not easy at all. You feel overwhelmed by how much practice you need to put into it. You start doubting yourself and thinking “There’s no way I’ll ever become a great guitar player and form my own band”. Friends tell you things like “Dude, you should’ve started years ago. All great guitarists started when they were young”.

So you quit.

This is a result of a weak belief in yourself. You don’t believe you have the potential to become a good guitarist. Which is obviously completely false. We as humans have unlimited potential.

Arnold Schwarzenegger doesn’t think like this.

Look at what he said:

How many times have you heard ‘You can’t do this’, ‘You can’t do that’, ‘It’s never been done before’. I love it when someone says ’ No one has ever done this before’, because when I do it, that means I’m the first person that’s ever done it!

This is how we should think when we set up to do anything in life.

Uncertainty is what kills people. Not knowing if they’re able to achieve it.

We need to brainwash ourselves every day into believing that we WILL do it NO MATTER WHAT.

All of these steps are equally important.

Do not skip them.

They are the foundation of your reboot.

They make rebooting so much easier. Your mind will be completely focused on what you want in life. You will be fixing the root of all your problems.

The secret of change is to focus all your energy not fighting the old, but on building the new.

Stop making posts complaining about your shitty life. Stop making posts saying how you’re sick of being addicted to ■■■■. Stop talking about ■■■■ altogether.

Instead, transform your journal into a self-improvement journal, focused 100% on moving towards the life you want.

“Forget” about ■■■■.

This is basic rebooting stuff, yet many people are constantly breaking this rule. They write about ■■■■ cravings, morning woods, spontaneous erections, what day they’re on, how much they struggled to abstain, how they can’t wait to reach 90 days, etc.

When you consistently focus 100% on building the life you want, your mind will naturally move away from ■■■■. You will also lessen the void left by quitting ■■■■, which is very real.

Many people quit ■■■■ only to find themselves in this life emptiness that is very hard to handle. Then they go back to ■■■■ precisely because this void is too much for them.

Focusing on your life vision is a superior rebooting approach.

Relapses aren’t that discouraging if you’re actually improving your life. Ironically, you will notice that the more you focus on what you want, the less frequently you will relapse.

It’s important that you think in terms of life vision and pursuing your dreams, not in terms of “I have to get busy and fill my life with activities so that I don’t watch ■■■■”. This is something you’re doing for yourself.

Stop ranting about ■■■■.

This journey is about your LIFE.

Focus on that and the ■■■■ will go away.

Managing Your Emotional Life

Ok, let’s keep going.

■■■■ addiction is much more than just getting cravings and relapsing.

One of the reasons we become addicted is because of our inability to manage our emotional lives.

You have to remind yourself that quitting ■■■■ is about growing up and becoming a much more mature person.

It’s much more than I want to quit ■■■■ so I can cure ED and have plenty of sex with women!.

Much more than that.

We’ve been using ■■■■ for years as a method of handling our emotions.

We need to stop hiding away from uncomfortable life situations. We need to stop using ■■■■ in order to escape from reality.

We must learn how to handle life and emotions without the need of ■■■■.

We need to understand that one of the reasons we relapse is because we’re pussies that can’t handle negative emotions.

We use ■■■■ as medication. We use ■■■■ to hide away from life. We use ■■■■ to temporarily relief anxiety, stress, loneliness, boredom, anger, etc.

Readjusting Your Sexual Expectations

This is by far one of the most difficult things to do.

When you quit ■■■■, you’re not just saying good bye to artificial stimulation.

You’re leaving behind the world of “never ending flow of hot chicks with big tits and round asses”.

Real life is nothing like that.

We’ve been spoiled by ■■■■. We believe that we should be out there having lots of sex with different women. We believe that this is the key to happiness and fulfillment.

The problem is that it is incredibly difficult and unrealistic to “fuck hot chicks on a regular basis”.

There’s nothing particularly wrong with having that goal, but you have to be willing to take some MASSIVE action. You have to go through hundreds of rejections. You need to have a lot of balls. You must do what 99.9% of men are incredibly afraid to do.

How many people here are doing what it takes to have the kind of sexual life we all dream about?

Very few, if any. We see these super hot chicks on tight dresses and we hope that maybe someday we might be able to have sex with them. We read books about seduction. We visit PUA forums. We watch videos on YouTube of guys approaching girls. We make theories and discuss them online.

But we aren’t doing shit about it.

It’s all just a dream. An idea we have in our minds. Something we hope someday we will do.

Here’s how most people get laid in real life:

A guy meets a girl he finds attractive, so he asks her out. They get to know each other. Then they continue to go out and form some sort of relationship. Then after some months the relationship either becomes serious or falls apart.

That’s the real world.

You have to accept that, unless you’re willing to take massive action, you won’t fuck anywhere near as many women as you expect to.

Accepting this is very difficult, but it is necessary.

We need to learn how to live without this world of endless hot chicks, otherwise we’ll become extremely disappointed and dissatisfied with real life, which is nothing like ■■■■.

Anyone here is more than capable of getting a girlfriend. But our girlfriends most likely won’t look like pornstars, nor they will act like them.

There’s a very high probability the sex won’t be pornographic in nature. There’s going to be a lot of sensuality, caressing, and also clumsiness. Some days your girl will look ■■■■, other days not so much. Some days she’ll be in the mood, other days she won’t. Some days you’ll struggle to keep it hard, other days you’ll ■■■ too fast. She might be able to achieve orgasms, or she might not. You might do it every other day, or maybe only 3-4 times per month.

Remember, pornstars are paid thousands of dollars to do what they’re told and fulfill all your fantasies.

You must stop living in dream land.

I know this is very difficult to accept, but we have to give meaning to our lives outside fucking hot chicks.

Our happiness cannot depend on that. Otherwise you’ll keep coming back to ■■■■ every time you fail to get laid in real life. You will remain attached to “sex with hot chicks” for the rest of your life. You have to change the way you view sex and women, because I can assure you it has been completely distorted by ■■■■.

By the way, I don’t believe there’s anything wrong about pursuing casual sex instead of a relationship, just make sure you keep both feet on the ground.

I would also like to add that relationships are about sharing your life with another person. I know many people here want a girlfriend so that they can finally start getting laid, but relationships go much more deeper than that.

If you’ve never had a girlfriend before you’ll know once you get one.

Thinking About Sex is USELESS

What’s the point of fantasizing?

It accomplishes nothing.

It slows down the reboot, increases the urge to masturbate, and reinforces neurological pathways related to ■■■■.

It’s a meaningless activity that should be eliminated.

It keeps your mind focused on sex, tits, asses, fucking, when it should be shifted towards other activities in life.

If you find yourself thinking about sex, you should mindfully and calmly redirect your attention to something else.

You want sex?

Great.

Then do something to actually make it happen.

Fantasizing by itself serves no purpose at all.

You need to understand that if you want to abstain from orgasm and masturbation, you cannot be thinking about sex and women, because this will inevitably cause you to relapse. Trying to abstain while at the same time fantasizing or peeking at pictures of chicks will only lead to frustration.

Stay away from any kind of artificial stimulation. Don’t take peeks. Don’t browse pictures of girls online. Don’t type pornstar names on Google image search. Don’t read escort forums.

Do not arouse yourself.

Basically you have to adopt a philosophy of “I’m either trying to get laid (approaching, texting girls, going out on dates, flirting with women, hanging out with friends, getting rejected) or doing something completely unrelated to sex (work, studying, exercise, fun, reading, playing an instrument, chores, housework, watching movies)”.

There is no grey area where you are alone thinking about sex or checking out girls online. This accomplishes nothing. It serves no real purpose. It will only increase urges, lead to relapse, and make you frustrated.

As soon as erotic thoughts pop up in your mind, you should calmly ignore them and refocus your attention to something else. You keep practicing this forever until you master it.

You have to attack this addiction right from the root. Trying to abstain from hardcore ■■■■ accomplishes nothing if you’re still constantly fantasizing and peeking.

If you keep strengthening the mindset I talked about above, you will be making meaningful progress.

This used to be called “Monk Mode”, but I don’t like that name because it implies that you’re going to become celibate.

This isn’t about becoming celibate. This is about doing what it takes if you want to get laid, instead of wasting mental energy on sexual thoughts that will only improve the chances of relapsing.

If you ever want to achieve a long streak, you can’t be checking out girls online, even if it’s just some bikini pictures. You can’t be fantasizing when you wake up in the morning. You can’t be taking 5 second peeks at ■■■■.

As soon as you do any of those things, this huge beast called ■■■■ addiction will take control over your prefrontal cortex and it’s just a matter of time before you relapse.

You have to be extreme.

But don’t worry, it’s much easier than it sounds.

It’s actually harder to stop yourself from relapsing once you’re already thinking about sex, than it is to not think about sex in the first place.

How do you not think about sex?

Simple.

Focus your mind 100% on your life vision.

Every…single…day.

Dismissing erotic thoughts as soon as they arrive in your mind is the cornerstone for preventing relapses.

This is basic stuff guys.

It’s Not Orgasm What You Crave

Many people here believe that abstaining from orgasm is the most difficult part of rebooting.

WRONG.

When you get ■■■■ cravings, your brain is not asking for orgasm. As an addict, it is begging you for your hit. It misses the high, the tits, the asses, the novelty, the rush, the unrealistic sexual scenarios, the fantasies, the super hot chicks, the perfect camera shots, the feeling of letting go and indulging in pleasure, the fucking, the cumshots, the doggystyles, the boobs bouncing around, etc.

If lack of orgasm was the problem, then everyone would just fap without ■■■■ (or any other artificial stimulation). There would be no relapses and everyone would have 500+ day counters.

The urge to ejaculate only becomes a real problem once you start peeking, edging or fantasizing constantly. When you find yourself in a state of arousal then obviously you will want to ■■■.

But the initial urges are “addiction urges”. They are mental. They are not a physical need for ejaculation.

If you feed these urges by peeking, even if it’s just pictures of hot babes in bikini, then they will invade your mind and rob you of your ability to concentrate or remain calm. Eventually “autopilot” mode will be engaged and we all know what happens next.

You’re not having urges to ■■■.

You’re having urges for a “high” and a “rush”.

Remember that.

This is why ■■■■ urges don’t go away when you get a girlfriend.

It is a drug, and you need to learn how to live without it, regardless of whether you have a girlfriend or not.

When you abstain for several days or weeks, your sensitized pathways are anxiously waiting for any sexual cue, no matter how short or brief. This is why people mistakenly confuse real libido with ■■■■ cravings. They take a peek at ■■■■ after 15 days and they feel this intense rush and urge to ■■■, so they conclude that it is libido and that they must relieve pressure.

The problem was taking a peek in the first place. Had they just focused on more important things instead, they would’ve been able to finish the day clean without problem.

If you manage to completely abstain from fantasizing and checking out chicks online (in any form), then going a long time without orgasm won’t be a problem.

And don’t even think about testing or caressing your dick.

Focus 100% on your life vision.

Counters vs Spreadsheets

The following advice is aimed particularly towards those members who are having trouble getting a good run. If you’re already doing good, you can skip this section.

Ok, here’s the thing:

There is a sickening obsession with long streaks on this forum.

People like counters because supposedly they are helpful for tracking progress.

Well, guess what? Spreadsheets do a much better job at that.

There’s a reason why I’m so stubborn with this anti-counter thing.

They are dangerous, destructive, counterproductive.

Counters reinforce the idea of being “back to zero” every time you relapse, making it way more justifiable to binge before starting over again. Not only that, but you completely lose track of how many times you’re actually masturbating. They don’t show the whole picture. There is absolutely no way to measure your progress at all. It’s a never ending cycle of abstaining for a few days and then going back to zero.

Every time you reset your counter you become increasingly discouraged and unmotivated.

There’s too much emphasis on what day you’re on, no fap challenges (there are currently 7 no fap challenges running, it’s ridiculous), 90 days, 100 days, etc.

If you’re consistently unable to get past XX days and you’re always in the low numbers, then your counter has lost its purpose.

Counters are only good when you’ve managed a good run, because this gives you a sense of accomplishment and provides sufficient accountability to actually prevent relapses sometimes.

Now, let’s talk about spreadsheets:

  • They keep your addiction under control: By keeping track of how many times you’re actually masturbating and having orgasms, you will be forced to keep it in the low numbers. If you relapse, the spreadsheet will discourage you to binge, especially when you’re sharing it with the forum. A good rule of thumb is to try to keep your orgasm count to less than 5 per month.

  • They allow you to see the full picture. In gameover’s words: “You don’t realise how you forget over a month how many times you actually masturbate, peek, pmo or orgasm until you have it in front of you. I thought i was well under 3-4 orgasms a month but I have been up around 6-7 and this month was no better.” You’ll be surprised at how many times you’re actually fapping.

  • They completely eliminate the “counting” factor. All you have to do is keep it as clean as you can. Pretty cool eh? No more counting, no more 90 day goals, no more fap challenges. After all, we’re trying to quit ■■■■ for life, not just 100 days or whatever.

  • They will never discourage you. If you do relapse, you input it on the spreadsheet and move on. You don’t make a new thread called “Relapsed again” or “Not making any progress”. Trust me, if you went from fapping 25 times per month to 2-3 times per month, you’re making huge progress, even if your counter only says “6 days”.

Spreadsheets are NOT a taper off approach, of course. The goal should always be to never watch ■■■■, to be as clean as you can, to take it one day at a time.

Tapering off, as in “I watched ■■■■ 20 times last month, so I’ll watch it 15 times this month”, will never work. You should never think like this. You should never give yourself the green light to PMO.

Ideally, you should replace your counter with a spreadsheet and completely forget about what day you’re on. Then, if you do manage to get on a good run, you can put your counter back up for accountability and motivational purposes.

However, I understand many people here are in love with their counters.

They look pretty.

They are fancy.

I get it, I get it.

So this is what I propose:

(Once again, this ONLY applies to people who are struggling. If you’re already on day 70 or whatever then don’t change anything, but consider using a spreadsheet if you do end up relapsing.)

Conclusion

To sum it up, the typical rebooting advice of Hey man, just do a 90 day reboot is basically useless.

This is a very serious addiction and should be treated as such.

Willpower alone won’t do it.

Change the way you live.

Change the way you think.

And please, stop making so many posts about ■■■■, cravings, urges, relapsing, erections, 90 days, etc.

Instead, focus on the most important thing:

Your life.

Gotta clarify some things:

I have never said that the reason we started watching ■■■■ was because of life problems. In fact, I would argue that is not the case for the majority of us.

I didn’t have any childhood issues or family problems when I was young. I just discovered ■■■■ on my own and liked it because it was very pleasurable. As kids and teenagers we are curious and horny.

However, as years go by, we become dependent on it not only because of its extreme addictive nature and accessibility, but also because we start using it as a way to cope with life.

The reason we start using ■■■■ and the reason we continue to use ■■■■ once we’re addicts aren’t necessarily the same.

I also didn’t mean to say that all ■■■■ addicts have shitty lives. Actually by shitty all I mean is being dissatisfied in one way or another. Maybe you constantly put off your goals. Or maybe you waste a lot of time online and want to change that. That doesn’t mean your life is shit. It just means it could be better.

I am completely aware there are exceptions. There is a guy who told me he had no problems getting instant makeouts and fucking chicks the same day he meets them. There are others who actually have incredibly busy lives and only watch ■■■■ to get some pleasure and relax.

Whatever your situation is, the main point of my post still stands. You should focus on moving towards what you want, instead of constantly complaining and wasting lots of energy on staying away from ■■■■.

Concentrate on building the life you dream about and this will help you tremendously on your quest to overcome your addiction to ■■■■.

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Nice. Such a detailed and a very long post. Liked it. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Very good read thanks for share :ok_hand:

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@Dane1989
keep on trying

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Damn truth ! Its it from easy peasy?

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That’s very true. Having a goal in life that keeps you busy is better than just being busy to pass time. I used to focus on just being busy.
Thanks bro for updating my weak knowledge.
Thanks :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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@Human108
ive not read easy peasy completely
so i cant say anything about it

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Well said, forget about porn and put efforts to achieve your goals in life. Don’t fear what negetive will come up but give your best.

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@Mintblue
fear is the worst effect of pmo

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I remember this post, somewhere on nofap forum I think

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@John22
an old post from the forum

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@NeverGiveup420 my pleasure💜

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Excellent post… This is something that I discoverd a few days before and now I am reading it here in a more detailed manner and yes focussing on our life is the only thing we need to do.

Thanks for posting :heavy_heart_exclamation:

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thats the main point we always forget ,just running in the race of days . we dont even think how we stuck into it

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worrying does not take away tomorrows trouble ,it takes away today’s peace

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Thanks for the inspiration friend

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Leaving a message , so that this come on top and others can also read this. @The_integrous_one , @prothekter_aden ,@anon87955785, @WalKir , @ysub @GradatimFerocitor , @TheBigSP , @Purity11 and @VARAD and all my brothers and sisters check out this thread’s first post. (Lol rewire user, ash matt and nofapstar already read this post)

Special thanks to @GOVIND-19 .

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I couldn’t agree with this more!!!

:100:

Been saying this since day 1

A brilliant post bro :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
It’s on point and is well explained! Thanks :+1:t3:

Thanks @Sholt_Tenkerrot to bringing this to everyone’s notice

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Where and how do you recommend we make a spreadsheet for this?

Ps: Thanks for opening my eye to this, I was having my suspicious that what I was doing and how I was relying on will power was not only finite but inherently detremential as once that will power erodes and I go back then it’ll be much harder to bring change as I’ve no will to do it anymore.

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Damn this post is pure gold… Thnxs @Sholt_Tenkerrot for making this thread alive again :ok_hand::ok_hand:

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